Bishop: Dale Farm eviction 'just moves the problem'

The Rt Rev Stephen Cottrell

The Rt Rev Stephen Cottrell

First published in News

THE Bishop of Chelmsford said we should pray for a peaceful clearance of Dale Farm, but warned the eviction solves no problems.

The Rt Rev Stephen Cottrell said: "As we witness the sad and difficult eviction of the travelling community from Dale Farm, let us pray that it happens peacefully and that no one is hurt or injured.

"But let us also remember that this eviction does not solve the problem but moves it somewhere else. These families are going to have to sleep somewhere tonight.

"What is needed is a national solution to provide travelling communities with stable, permanent and, if they wish, settled sites so that their culture and community can be maintained and flourish within the law."

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10:34am Wed 19 Oct 11

carnacation says...

Bit late, to start praying for peace, shame the church didn't offer moving advice before this day arrived..
Bit late, to start praying for peace, shame the church didn't offer moving advice before this day arrived.. carnacation
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11:01am Wed 19 Oct 11

redcar says...

Will the Bishop also pray for those victims of the alledged murders / rape / theft / violence that appear to eliminate from DF? Will the Bishop also pray for justic in benefit fraud investigations. Will he pray for more school places for settled residents as we gave up a good school for DF (now official worst truant record in entire UK). Will he pray for the REAL victims in this ? DF residents are not homeless - they have property and funds most of us can only dream of and also want to be immune from the laws of the land. If it is justice for the victims of this occupation the Bishop is praying for then the legal settled residents of the area thank him for his support.
Will the Bishop also pray for those victims of the alledged murders / rape / theft / violence that appear to eliminate from DF? Will the Bishop also pray for justic in benefit fraud investigations. Will he pray for more school places for settled residents as we gave up a good school for DF (now official worst truant record in entire UK). Will he pray for the REAL victims in this ? DF residents are not homeless - they have property and funds most of us can only dream of and also want to be immune from the laws of the land. If it is justice for the victims of this occupation the Bishop is praying for then the legal settled residents of the area thank him for his support. redcar
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11:05am Wed 19 Oct 11

JuliaM says...

carnacation wrote:
Bit late, to start praying for peace, shame the church didn't offer moving advice before this day arrived..
Indeed!
[quote][p][bold]carnacation[/bold] wrote: Bit late, to start praying for peace, shame the church didn't offer moving advice before this day arrived..[/p][/quote]Indeed! JuliaM
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11:06am Wed 19 Oct 11

Discouraged says...

Forgive him Lord for he knows not what he is talking about.
Forgive him Lord for he knows not what he is talking about. Discouraged
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11:06am Wed 19 Oct 11

yellowfairy says...

Let the bishop have them pitch up in his churchyard if he is that bothered...another person jumping on the bandwagon.
Let the bishop have them pitch up in his churchyard if he is that bothered...another person jumping on the bandwagon. yellowfairy
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11:09am Wed 19 Oct 11

OneManOneVoice says...

I hope he prays not to see another member of the church linked with interfering with children.
I hope he prays not to see another member of the church linked with interfering with children. OneManOneVoice
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11:09am Wed 19 Oct 11

carnacation says...

Well if you believe in fairy stories, what possible hope is there...
Well if you believe in fairy stories, what possible hope is there... carnacation
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11:14am Wed 19 Oct 11

Brunning999 says...

This is the reason why churches are almost empty every Sunday, the Bishop really really should try and connect with normal law abiding folk and not minority groups that cause mayhem and lawlessness.

I know the Church should never turn anyone away (which they actually ) however perhaps a non participant role would be wiser.

He is another example of the very truthful saying like many hard nosed stuck up posh Christians they are ' So heavenly minded they are no worldly use'

Even Jesus used force in the church used as a market place.
This is the reason why churches are almost empty every Sunday, the Bishop really really should try and connect with normal law abiding folk and not minority groups that cause mayhem and lawlessness. I know the Church should never turn anyone away (which they actually ) however perhaps a non participant role would be wiser. He is another example of the very truthful saying like many hard nosed stuck up posh Christians they are ' So heavenly minded they are no worldly use' Even Jesus used force in the church used as a market place. Brunning999
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11:15am Wed 19 Oct 11

perini says...

Steve,
I'm sure the church has loads of space they can settle on! Make sure it's of prime residential value though!
Steve, I'm sure the church has loads of space they can settle on! Make sure it's of prime residential value though! perini
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11:17am Wed 19 Oct 11

OneManOneVoice says...

"Even Jesus used force in the church"
.
Did he have a lightsaber too ?
"Even Jesus used force in the church" . Did he have a lightsaber too ? OneManOneVoice
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11:24am Wed 19 Oct 11

Bosniavet says...

I hope the Bishop is on his way to guide the evictees to church land where he'll happily let them camp.....
I hope the Bishop is on his way to guide the evictees to church land where he'll happily let them camp..... Bosniavet
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11:25am Wed 19 Oct 11

Ricayboy says...

I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?
I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next? Ricayboy
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11:32am Wed 19 Oct 11

redcar says...

Ricayboy wrote:
I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?
They can go to (a) their houses in Ireland (b) a legal plot of the £3 million amount of land they own or (c) accept the Council Housing offered to them. I am quite sure this is more option than the rest of us would have if we lost our LEGAL homes
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?[/p][/quote]They can go to (a) their houses in Ireland (b) a legal plot of the £3 million amount of land they own or (c) accept the Council Housing offered to them. I am quite sure this is more option than the rest of us would have if we lost our LEGAL homes redcar
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11:41am Wed 19 Oct 11

streetboy75 says...

peacefull clearence he says, i dont see the travelers going for the peacefull clearence by all the media coverage. they are the ones making it un peacefull.
peacefull clearence he says, i dont see the travelers going for the peacefull clearence by all the media coverage. they are the ones making it un peacefull. streetboy75
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11:46am Wed 19 Oct 11

APR says...

They were saying on the radio, that there's also a nun on site.

You couldn't make it up could you ?
They were saying on the radio, that there's also a nun on site. You couldn't make it up could you ? APR
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11:46am Wed 19 Oct 11

carnacation says...

If I was a believer, they could all go to Hell
If I was a believer, they could all go to Hell carnacation
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11:46am Wed 19 Oct 11

redcar says...

I do wonder why the Catholic Church has not been involved in this ? the travellers are afterall part of their flock. One day my partner went inside the Catholic Church to ask calmly could all the (un-taxed) illegally parked cars and vans over the grass-verge and those blocking the pavement kindly be moved as a disabled lady could not get down the road in her wheelchair and 3 young mums could not get access down the road with their prams. A simply resonable request. In church he was given replies that would be unprintable and the priest said nothing!!!! So much for "love thy neighbour" and "god-fearing folk" - the church really should give their services, support and understanding to those that respect others and show kindness to others and not get involved with criminals and they should condem those that show violence towards others.
I do wonder why the Catholic Church has not been involved in this ? the travellers are afterall part of their flock. One day my partner went inside the Catholic Church to ask calmly could all the (un-taxed) illegally parked cars and vans over the grass-verge and those blocking the pavement kindly be moved as a disabled lady could not get down the road in her wheelchair and 3 young mums could not get access down the road with their prams. A simply resonable request. In church he was given replies that would be unprintable and the priest said nothing!!!! So much for "love thy neighbour" and "god-fearing folk" - the church really should give their services, support and understanding to those that respect others and show kindness to others and not get involved with criminals and they should condem those that show violence towards others. redcar
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11:47am Wed 19 Oct 11

GentleGiant says...

it is time this so called man of God got real.

Why not invite them all to stay on his land?

What a sad person.....
it is time this so called man of God got real. Why not invite them all to stay on his land? What a sad person..... GentleGiant
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11:52am Wed 19 Oct 11

Ricayboy says...

redcar wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?
They can go to (a) their houses in Ireland (b) a legal plot of the £3 million amount of land they own or (c) accept the Council Housing offered to them. I am quite sure this is more option than the rest of us would have if we lost our LEGAL homes
No, I didn't mean that. What concerns me is that they'll just go somewhere else to blight another community just down the road.
[quote][p][bold]redcar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?[/p][/quote]They can go to (a) their houses in Ireland (b) a legal plot of the £3 million amount of land they own or (c) accept the Council Housing offered to them. I am quite sure this is more option than the rest of us would have if we lost our LEGAL homes[/p][/quote]No, I didn't mean that. What concerns me is that they'll just go somewhere else to blight another community just down the road. Ricayboy
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12:41pm Wed 19 Oct 11

wickham says...

NO to the bishop it does not move the problem, at the press conference the world heard the media ask Tony Ball "who did you tell at Dale Farm that there were authorised sites throughout the country who will accept them" and his answer was loud and clear "Candy Sheridan", hang your bl**dy hell in shame bishop for not checking facts before approaching the media.
NO to the bishop it does not move the problem, at the press conference the world heard the media ask Tony Ball "who did you tell at Dale Farm that there were authorised sites throughout the country who will accept them" and his answer was loud and clear "Candy Sheridan", hang your bl**dy hell in shame bishop for not checking facts before approaching the media. wickham
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12:54pm Wed 19 Oct 11

Ironman says...

Ricayboy wrote:
I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?
where they come from..........easy!
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?[/p][/quote]where they come from..........easy! Ironman
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12:59pm Wed 19 Oct 11

Ironman says...

GentleGiant wrote:
it is time this so called man of God got real.

Why not invite them all to stay on his land?

What a sad person.....
Doesn't this hypocrite live at the top of Stock hill with an acre of lawned garden that could be enhanced by the addition of some well placed tarmac landscaping.
[quote][p][bold]GentleGiant[/bold] wrote: it is time this so called man of God got real. Why not invite them all to stay on his land? What a sad person.....[/p][/quote]Doesn't this hypocrite live at the top of Stock hill with an acre of lawned garden that could be enhanced by the addition of some well placed tarmac landscaping. Ironman
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1:00pm Wed 19 Oct 11

Alekhine says...

Ironman wrote:
Ricayboy wrote: I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?
where they come from..........easy!
and God said - go forth and multiply.
[quote][p][bold]Ironman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?[/p][/quote]where they come from..........easy![/p][/quote]and God said - go forth and multiply. Alekhine
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1:32pm Wed 19 Oct 11

hughie-s says...

GentleGiant wrote:
it is time this so called man of God got real.

Why not invite them all to stay on his land?

What a sad person.....
He said on the radio the church has no land hey could go on!!!
[quote][p][bold]GentleGiant[/bold] wrote: it is time this so called man of God got real. Why not invite them all to stay on his land? What a sad person.....[/p][/quote]He said on the radio the church has no land hey could go on!!! hughie-s
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1:38pm Wed 19 Oct 11

redcar says...

Ricayboy wrote:
redcar wrote:
Ricayboy wrote: I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?
They can go to (a) their houses in Ireland (b) a legal plot of the £3 million amount of land they own or (c) accept the Council Housing offered to them. I am quite sure this is more option than the rest of us would have if we lost our LEGAL homes
No, I didn't mean that. What concerns me is that they'll just go somewhere else to blight another community just down the road.
You can bet they will go somewhere else illegal - all the time protesting on tv they have no-where to go. If the BBC made it clear to the nation these people have several legal options there would be NO sympathy next time they illegally settle and one hopes the courts will be quicker to act in future - if they continue then they must all be jailed - do the crime do the time.

It seems many feel that just because these people will go and break the law again it is best to just leave us residents that have suffered for 10 years to put up with it.

Travellers have 3 legal options - they can take them. If they choose an illegal option then this time they should be arrested / jailed / property and money seized and sold to pay for all the damage they have caused and legal fees.
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redcar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?[/p][/quote]They can go to (a) their houses in Ireland (b) a legal plot of the £3 million amount of land they own or (c) accept the Council Housing offered to them. I am quite sure this is more option than the rest of us would have if we lost our LEGAL homes[/p][/quote]No, I didn't mean that. What concerns me is that they'll just go somewhere else to blight another community just down the road.[/p][/quote]You can bet they will go somewhere else illegal - all the time protesting on tv they have no-where to go. If the BBC made it clear to the nation these people have several legal options there would be NO sympathy next time they illegally settle and one hopes the courts will be quicker to act in future - if they continue then they must all be jailed - do the crime do the time. It seems many feel that just because these people will go and break the law again it is best to just leave us residents that have suffered for 10 years to put up with it. Travellers have 3 legal options - they can take them. If they choose an illegal option then this time they should be arrested / jailed / property and money seized and sold to pay for all the damage they have caused and legal fees. redcar
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3:44pm Wed 19 Oct 11

APR says...

redcar wrote:
I do wonder why the Catholic Church has not been involved in this ? the travellers are afterall part of their flock. One day my partner went inside the Catholic Church to ask calmly could all the (un-taxed) illegally parked cars and vans over the grass-verge and those blocking the pavement kindly be moved as a disabled lady could not get down the road in her wheelchair and 3 young mums could not get access down the road with their prams. A simply resonable request. In church he was given replies that would be unprintable and the priest said nothing!!!! So much for "love thy neighbour" and "god-fearing folk" - the church really should give their services, support and understanding to those that respect others and show kindness to others and not get involved with criminals and they should condem those that show violence towards others.
That doesn't surprise me at all.

In fact, nothing the Catholic church gets up to surprises me any more.

They must be the most evil bunch of hypocrites in existence.
[quote][p][bold]redcar[/bold] wrote: I do wonder why the Catholic Church has not been involved in this ? the travellers are afterall part of their flock. One day my partner went inside the Catholic Church to ask calmly could all the (un-taxed) illegally parked cars and vans over the grass-verge and those blocking the pavement kindly be moved as a disabled lady could not get down the road in her wheelchair and 3 young mums could not get access down the road with their prams. A simply resonable request. In church he was given replies that would be unprintable and the priest said nothing!!!! So much for "love thy neighbour" and "god-fearing folk" - the church really should give their services, support and understanding to those that respect others and show kindness to others and not get involved with criminals and they should condem those that show violence towards others.[/p][/quote]That doesn't surprise me at all. In fact, nothing the Catholic church gets up to surprises me any more. They must be the most evil bunch of hypocrites in existence. APR
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5:37pm Wed 19 Oct 11

SARFENDMAN says...

Local churchyard would be pure heaven. Think of all that handy, right on your doorstep, juicy lead roofing?!
Local churchyard would be pure heaven. Think of all that handy, right on your doorstep, juicy lead roofing?! SARFENDMAN
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6:08pm Wed 19 Oct 11

geezer, innit says...

everyone's bashing the bishop! lol


Plenty of room in the car parks of all the churches in the Bishop of Chelmsford's diocese - let the 'travellers' plot up there and see how how the locals like it.

If you got nothing to add that'll solve the problem Bish, just shut the flip up, get on your knees and pray to the Lord....
everyone's bashing the bishop! lol Plenty of room in the car parks of all the churches in the Bishop of Chelmsford's diocese - let the 'travellers' plot up there and see how how the locals like it. If you got nothing to add that'll solve the problem Bish, just shut the flip up, get on your knees and pray to the Lord.... geezer, innit
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6:45pm Wed 19 Oct 11

Mary Lou says...

Why not let them have sanctuary in your church Bishop?
.
No, thought not.
Why not let them have sanctuary in your church Bishop? . No, thought not. Mary Lou
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6:52pm Wed 19 Oct 11

its only fair says...

Ricayboy wrote:
I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?
well thats up to them why should we re house them for illegaly squating ?? if you or i was to squat illegaly we wouldnt be offerd homes we would be dragged off and arrested then told to jog on !! as for the bishop lol .. u have more land then bdc dont see you offering any to the travellers !! the church always sticks its nose in but never does anything to help !!any way the travellers have been offerd places but refused even the sheridan woman said on tv we dont want to go to these places !! well it wernt a choice its take it or leave it cos we wouldnt be offerd a choice ... i think the problem is for the irish gov thats their country let them have the crap back their law breakers so deport them !!!
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: I am a Christian and I see nothing wrong with enforcing the law of the land. However, what the bloke says is true in a way. Where are the Travellers going to go next?[/p][/quote]well thats up to them why should we re house them for illegaly squating ?? if you or i was to squat illegaly we wouldnt be offerd homes we would be dragged off and arrested then told to jog on !! as for the bishop lol .. u have more land then bdc dont see you offering any to the travellers !! the church always sticks its nose in but never does anything to help !!any way the travellers have been offerd places but refused even the sheridan woman said on tv we dont want to go to these places !! well it wernt a choice its take it or leave it cos we wouldnt be offerd a choice ... i think the problem is for the irish gov thats their country let them have the crap back their law breakers so deport them !!! its only fair
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7:10pm Wed 19 Oct 11

its only fair says...

so if i decide to become a rasta will the council provide me with a beach house and sunshine ?? they live in our land then they should live our way if not buy their own legal land we have no prob !! i cant belive how this country puts up with this crap we are on the verge of bankrupcy and we let immagrints dictate to us these idiots have just cost us 18,000,000 because they refused to comply with our laws things are hard enough for most folk without throwing that amount of money away on some backward billys they should be billed for the whole thing we would have been ... animals the lot of em throwing urine at people and bricks disgusting scum !! they deserve to be treated like animals how would you like to go to work and have p*ss thrown in ya face dirty dirty b*stards !!! i hope they are now dragged off that dungheap in the manner they deserve !!! how can a bishop and mps condone this sort of behavior and the travellers cant blame the protesters cos the travellers invited them and encouraged them to inflict violence!! i hope the sheridan woman who was on tv mouthing off we will fight ya gets arrested for incieting violence and all the others do too the police have the evidence on camara lets hope they do as in the riots and arrest them all after this is over !after todays dissgusting vile scummy behavior every one has witnesed the true anamallistic ways of the travellers and their true nature has shone threw well done whatever little support you had has now dissapeared like your caravans goodbye goodriddance !!xxx
so if i decide to become a rasta will the council provide me with a beach house and sunshine ?? they live in our land then they should live our way if not buy their own legal land we have no prob !! i cant belive how this country puts up with this crap we are on the verge of bankrupcy and we let immagrints dictate to us these idiots have just cost us 18,000,000 because they refused to comply with our laws things are hard enough for most folk without throwing that amount of money away on some backward billys they should be billed for the whole thing we would have been ... animals the lot of em throwing urine at people and bricks disgusting scum !! they deserve to be treated like animals how would you like to go to work and have p*ss thrown in ya face dirty dirty b*stards !!! i hope they are now dragged off that dungheap in the manner they deserve !!! how can a bishop and mps condone this sort of behavior and the travellers cant blame the protesters cos the travellers invited them and encouraged them to inflict violence!! i hope the sheridan woman who was on tv mouthing off we will fight ya gets arrested for incieting violence and all the others do too the police have the evidence on camara lets hope they do as in the riots and arrest them all after this is over !after todays dissgusting vile scummy behavior every one has witnesed the true anamallistic ways of the travellers and their true nature has shone threw well done whatever little support you had has now dissapeared like your caravans goodbye goodriddance !!xxx its only fair
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7:39pm Wed 19 Oct 11

save southend says...

what does the church know about this , they believe anything they are told and are so out of touch, messing with kids nah not us mate we are the church and this does not happen, we have spoken, what has a pint of guiness and an irish priest have in common both are black with a white ring and either will give you a sore ar,,e if you get a dodgy one , stick to bell ringing and choir boys stay out of these matters fool
what does the church know about this , they believe anything they are told and are so out of touch, messing with kids nah not us mate we are the church and this does not happen, we have spoken, what has a pint of guiness and an irish priest have in common both are black with a white ring and either will give you a sore ar,,e if you get a dodgy one , stick to bell ringing and choir boys stay out of these matters fool save southend
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8:34pm Wed 19 Oct 11

stropmag says...

I'm not averse to Bishop Bashing myself but I feel this Bishop is so much better at it?
I'm not averse to Bishop Bashing myself but I feel this Bishop is so much better at it? stropmag
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10:42pm Wed 19 Oct 11

leighbloke says...

There are far too many Bishop Bashers making postings on here tonight.
I am amazed they have little else to do with their life but Bash the Bishop
There are far too many Bishop Bashers making postings on here tonight. I am amazed they have little else to do with their life but Bash the Bishop leighbloke
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10:52pm Wed 19 Oct 11

Major Incident says...

As the richest land owners in the country I'm sure the Church could do the charitable thing and let them have a few small plots.

Alternatively perhaps an audience with the Pope could be granted.....caravans in St Peter's Square would make it a more interesting tourist attraction.
As the richest land owners in the country I'm sure the Church could do the charitable thing and let them have a few small plots. Alternatively perhaps an audience with the Pope could be granted.....caravans in St Peter's Square would make it a more interesting tourist attraction. Major Incident
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12:42pm Fri 21 Oct 11

bazza 1 says...

redcar wrote:
Will the Bishop also pray for those victims of the alledged murders / rape / theft / violence that appear to eliminate from DF? Will the Bishop also pray for justic in benefit fraud investigations. Will he pray for more school places for settled residents as we gave up a good school for DF (now official worst truant record in entire UK). Will he pray for the REAL victims in this ? DF residents are not homeless - they have property and funds most of us can only dream of and also want to be immune from the laws of the land. If it is justice for the victims of this occupation the Bishop is praying for then the legal settled residents of the area thank him for his support.
Well said " redcar". The travellers know just how to plead discrimination, and the press seems to pander to their point of view. No other community in the UK is given help with settlement, paid for by the taxpayer. Why should they be treated any differently to anyone else? Were the Dale Farm travellers paying council tax in the 10 years they resided there? My guess is no. Were the men working in the black economy? My guess is yes. Why are we, the taxpayers expected to bend over backwards to accomodate these outlaws? They are only here in England because the Eire government made their practise of tresspass illegal. Why has our government been so lax in changing our laws to protect us from this kind of opportunistic law breaking? I for one will never vote for any of the three major political parties ever again. I will vote for anyone who is reading from the same page as me. At present that is possibly UKIP. God save us from the Liberal, Conservatives, and the Labour Party.
[quote][p][bold]redcar[/bold] wrote: Will the Bishop also pray for those victims of the alledged murders / rape / theft / violence that appear to eliminate from DF? Will the Bishop also pray for justic in benefit fraud investigations. Will he pray for more school places for settled residents as we gave up a good school for DF (now official worst truant record in entire UK). Will he pray for the REAL victims in this ? DF residents are not homeless - they have property and funds most of us can only dream of and also want to be immune from the laws of the land. If it is justice for the victims of this occupation the Bishop is praying for then the legal settled residents of the area thank him for his support.[/p][/quote]Well said " redcar". The travellers know just how to plead discrimination, and the press seems to pander to their point of view. No other community in the UK is given help with settlement, paid for by the taxpayer. Why should they be treated any differently to anyone else? Were the Dale Farm travellers paying council tax in the 10 years they resided there? My guess is no. Were the men working in the black economy? My guess is yes. Why are we, the taxpayers expected to bend over backwards to accomodate these outlaws? They are only here in England because the Eire government made their practise of tresspass illegal. Why has our government been so lax in changing our laws to protect us from this kind of opportunistic law breaking? I for one will never vote for any of the three major political parties ever again. I will vote for anyone who is reading from the same page as me. At present that is possibly UKIP. God save us from the Liberal, Conservatives, and the Labour Party. bazza 1
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12:52pm Fri 21 Oct 11

bazza 1 says...

leighbloke wrote:
There are far too many Bishop Bashers making postings on here tonight.
I am amazed they have little else to do with their life but Bash the Bishop
Perhaps they are being "bashed", because they utter absolute drivel about the "travellers". Why should things be provided for people who's only aim in life is to give two fingers to the rest of us. They pay sod all into the society they live amongst, and expect everything back. It's no wonder the churches are empty on Sunday. If the church (C of E, or Catholic) are so concerned about their welfare, then, being as they are the countries largest landowners, maybe they can set aside some pasture land of their own, so the "Travellers" can cover it in tarmac, and build static houses, (without wheels) and then look forward to replacing the lead on the local church roof.
[quote][p][bold]leighbloke[/bold] wrote: There are far too many Bishop Bashers making postings on here tonight. I am amazed they have little else to do with their life but Bash the Bishop[/p][/quote]Perhaps they are being "bashed", because they utter absolute drivel about the "travellers". Why should things be provided for people who's only aim in life is to give two fingers to the rest of us. They pay sod all into the society they live amongst, and expect everything back. It's no wonder the churches are empty on Sunday. If the church (C of E, or Catholic) are so concerned about their welfare, then, being as they are the countries largest landowners, maybe they can set aside some pasture land of their own, so the "Travellers" can cover it in tarmac, and build static houses, (without wheels) and then look forward to replacing the lead on the local church roof. bazza 1
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9:37am Sat 22 Oct 11

Kim Gandy says...

Hey bish.... how's this for a novel idea... YOU HAVE THEM ON CHURCH LAND. You're sympathising with them, you're "praying" for them.. YOU have them. Now where is there a piece of land in the vicinity belonging to the Church, come on, let's see YOU doing something. All you do gooders out there need to DO SOMETHING instead of telling the rest of us what we should and shouldn't do, say and think.

Just for once you lefties, LET'S SEE YOU ACT instead of this constant bellyaching.
Hey bish.... how's this for a novel idea... YOU HAVE THEM ON CHURCH LAND. You're sympathising with them, you're "praying" for them.. YOU have them. Now where is there a piece of land in the vicinity belonging to the Church, come on, let's see YOU doing something. All you do gooders out there need to DO SOMETHING instead of telling the rest of us what we should and shouldn't do, say and think. Just for once you lefties, LET'S SEE YOU ACT instead of this constant bellyaching. Kim Gandy
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4:01pm Sat 22 Oct 11

chunkus04 says...

i think most of you are missing the point here.... although i think it was right for the eviction of DF, think about where they are going to go...... yes the council has moved them on from basildon, to where though exactly??? to someone elses door step thats where!! i cant see the logic in that? maybe they sould of deported them back to ireland but no they just let them go on there merry way to terrorise some other poor community.... UNBELEIVABLE!!
i think most of you are missing the point here.... although i think it was right for the eviction of DF, think about where they are going to go...... yes the council has moved them on from basildon, to where though exactly??? to someone elses door step thats where!! i cant see the logic in that? maybe they sould of deported them back to ireland but no they just let them go on there merry way to terrorise some other poor community.... UNBELEIVABLE!! chunkus04
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10:11am Sun 23 Oct 11

jacklumber1 says...

I thought they were offered two alternative sites in Cambridge or Lincolshire somewhere or was that incorrect? I think the name Smithy Fen comes to mind? Then they are free to go back to Eire if they want aren't they?
I thought they were offered two alternative sites in Cambridge or Lincolshire somewhere or was that incorrect? I think the name Smithy Fen comes to mind? Then they are free to go back to Eire if they want aren't they? jacklumber1
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12:02am Wed 26 Oct 11

MrsPloppy says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
Hey bish.... how's this for a novel idea... YOU HAVE THEM ON CHURCH LAND. You're sympathising with them, you're "praying" for them.. YOU have them. Now where is there a piece of land in the vicinity belonging to the Church, come on, let's see YOU doing something. All you do gooders out there need to DO SOMETHING instead of telling the rest of us what we should and shouldn't do, say and think.

Just for once you lefties, LET'S SEE YOU ACT instead of this constant bellyaching.
Ere misses, does that man Len Gridley live in your gaff? I mean, you support him don't you?
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: Hey bish.... how's this for a novel idea... YOU HAVE THEM ON CHURCH LAND. You're sympathising with them, you're "praying" for them.. YOU have them. Now where is there a piece of land in the vicinity belonging to the Church, come on, let's see YOU doing something. All you do gooders out there need to DO SOMETHING instead of telling the rest of us what we should and shouldn't do, say and think. Just for once you lefties, LET'S SEE YOU ACT instead of this constant bellyaching.[/p][/quote]Ere misses, does that man Len Gridley live in your gaff? I mean, you support him don't you? MrsPloppy
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